Otunba Adewale Adenaike has his eyes firmly set on clinching the Ogun East Senatorial District seat in Nigeria’s forthcoming elections in 2023. In this interview, he speaks about his vision and plans.
Can
you let us in a bit about your background before you came into politics?
I am a Civil Engineer
by training and that is an area where I have developed competency over the
years since I left the university in the UK. My engineering background has
prepared me substantially for a life in politics because there are quite a
number of similarities in the principles of civil engineering and political
engineering, which is where I am today.
What
are the most compelling reasons that informed your decision to contest for
elective office?
The most compelling
reason that has driven me into politics is service. Today, I am like our
forefathers who went abroad to school and came back to our fatherland with an
insatiable desire to turn their fatherland into an Eldorado through service.
Today, in Nigeria and especially my Senatorial District, there is a deficit of
service. Ogun East is bigger in geographical size and richer in natural
resources than some States in Nigeria, yet it is one of the most backward in
terms of development. Even if we cannot become a State now because of the
constitutional provisions attached to State creation in our beloved nation, are
we unable to galvanize the natural resources we are endowed with? Are we also
unable to mobilize national resources to which we are entitled, to turn the
district around? Can anyone point to any meaningful constituency project in
Ogun East Senatorial District that has been attracted from the Federal
Government of Nigeria in recent times? Yet, our people pay taxes, they are
industrious and we have forest reserves that are exploited on a daily basis so
much so that our forest reserve is now seriously threatened.
Why
the Senate specifically?
I am a man of the
people. The Senate is the place to be. Democracy is about the people. I love it
when people engage at the intellectual level. I love it when we have to consult
with our people to know what they want and we go to the floor of parliament to
argue our position and convince others on the need to see things from our
perspective. A Leader does not only take his people to where they want to go,
you lead them to where they ought to be. That is the engine room of democratic
governance – the parliament is the place to be. I have heard people describe it
as the old people’s home. I beg to disagree with respect. Parliament also
provides a wider circumference of operation. If there is one thing we need as a
people in this country today, it is the ability to know ourselves and
understand ourselves. When I get to the upper Legislative Chamber in 2023 by
the grace of God and the power of the good and progressive people of Ogun East
Senatorial District, I will have the opportunity to synergize with other great
Nigerians from other parts of Nigeria. This type of synergy is the type you get
in international relations – the synergy of mutual benefit for all the State
actors. In the last four decades, I have watched with keen interest, robust
Parliamentary debate in the UK with the interest of the citizenry being the
focal point. The upper Legislative Chamber is certainly the place to be, my
brother.
Many
will insist that democratic governance has underperformed generally since
1999... why do you think this is so?
Again, I want to
disagree with profound respect to those who put forward that view. In the first
instance, I need to see their data for comparison. Part of the challenges that
are fueling these conversations are beer parlour gossips and conversations
lacking in empiricism. Let the critics provide their data and let us run the
numbers scientifically and see where the scale tilts. Are we talking about
military system of government that is 100% dictatorial, a take it or leave it
situation? Are we also in romance with monarchy, anarchy or fascism? I align
here with the late sage – Chief Obafemi Awolowo, who was one of my political mentors,
who said “that of all systems of government man has developed, the most
reasonable and viable amongst them is democracy, the shortcomings
notwithstanding.”
Again, you want to find
out what the people expect in democracy which has not been provided. I
recognize the fact that we have some challenges but let me tell you this, the
Western democracies that we are using as a basis for comparison today fought
bitter destructive wars to get to where they are. Read the history of Europe,
America, Japan etc and you will see the number of wars they fought before they
got to their current location in life. What we are going through are all pangs
of nation building. It is an inevitable stage in nation building. The need to
lessen the burden of nation building is what has driven persons like me into
politics so that with our experience, education and exposure, we can reduce the
down time in our march towards an egalitarian society.
As
an insider now and based on experience, why is Nigeria unable to fulfill the
vast potential for which she is widely acknowledged?
First is to adopt my
answer to the last question as part of the answer to this question. The second
point to be made in response to the question is that society has become very
large and we have not exploited other natural resources, which has pleased God,
to endow us with. Instead, we have concentrated all our attention on just one,
which is crude oil or the black gold as some people describe it. Unfortunately,
because of error of judgment and associated issues, we have not taken full
advantage of this black gold, it has now become for us what scholars have
described as the ‘resource curse.’ It is also important to mention here that we
have also allowed too much of divisive mundane issues to come to the fore, much
more than the things that unite us. But as I said, all these are indicative of
our growth and development as a people and as a nation. With a little bit of
perseverance and cross-border synergy, all these things will become part of our
history and those alive then to tell the story will wonder how we were able to
exist as a people with all the challenges that came our way. Post-internet and
GSM children are still wondering how we were able to cope without those
facilities. I am still wondering myself.
Do
you think Nigeria needs constitutional reforms to address the issues
surrounding resource control, restructuring of the federation, local
governments etc?
I have heard that
debate about Constitutional Amendment so many times and I align my humble self
with the proposition that the Constitution requires amendment for the simple
reason that as society grows, the regulatory instruments must also grow along with
it, otherwise, there will be a distortion that can slow down our societal
development. Take for instance the quest for State Police and Local Government
autonomy. I think we have reached a stage in our nation where this amendment
has to be done, Kudos to the brains behind Amotekun in Western Nigeria today.
They may not be as sophisticated as we want that outfit to be but that
notwithstanding, we have used one stone to kill two birds. One, we have
increased the awareness on security. Secondly, we have found for some persons a
little source of income that can keep body and soul together. As my Ijebu
brethren will say – “were were witititi san ju witiwiti wape” (meaning “Every
little helps.”).
In the course of
serving as the Special Assistant to the Hon. Minister of State for Education on
Projects, I have come to see that Nigeria is truly large and as such we need to
drop some powers so that the people can use it to their own benefit. Do you
know how long it will take you to travel from Abuja to Kontagora or from Abuja
to Ijebu or from Abuja to Calabar even if you are doing it by air or speed
rail? We certainly need to deepen that conversation but it must be in an
atmosphere devoid of witch-hunting. There is beauty in our size. it is
intimidating, it is of immense advantage in terms of commercial value. Nigeria
is the investor’s destination at any time of the day. But we need to get some
things right and our laws remain one of those things we must deal with
decisively for the investment space to be opened.
Looking
at legislative performance, what areas can you say are lacking? Also, has the
NASS been able to act as an effective check to the seemingly overarching powers
of the Executive? Some have said that the Legislature is a mere rubber stamp,
what are your candid views on this?
This is a cocktail of
questions. I will attempt to respond to all of them briefly. On the issue of
legislative performance, I think we must salute the legislative arm of
government for providing the necessary support that other arms of government
require for their optimal performance. One trap that we fall into easily is
that the legislative arm of government is only effective when it is travelling
on the opposite direction with other arms of government. This is not only
erroneous; it is also fallacious. Take the issue of Ministerial appointments
for instance, but for the legislature, do you know the kind of characters that
may have been brought into administration to run the government of the State or
the Federation? Arising from this position, the issue of rubber stamp is
therefore a label that I consider to be unfair for the legislature. Take the
Buhari administration for instance, even when the leadership of the lower and
upper Legislative arms of government are from the Ruling party at the Executive
level, there are instances where the legislative arm of government has rejected
some propositions from the Executive arm of government. A case in point is the
nomination of Onochie as INEC Commissioner. The legislature rejected the nomination
for the number of times the Executive proposed the name.
On
a personal level, what do you think makes you highly qualified to run for
Senate?
There are several
factors that make me highly qualified to run for this position. First, I have
been constitutionally empowered to do so. Second, I am not just a Nigerian, I
am also proudly and happily of Ijebu stock. Furthermore, I have had years of
service both locally and internationally. If I can excel in service in foreign
land, then the least I can do is to replicate that good service that I
delivered in foreign land in my own land.
What is more, I am
better exposed and experienced more than before. The errors I made at the start
of my public/working career can never be made again.
If
or when elected, what would be your priorities? What sort of bills will you be
introducing?
Let me set the record
straight, I am on a divine mandate to bring succor to the people of Ogun East,
I have also paid my dues and I am well loved by my people, therefore, there is
no issue of ‘if elected!’ It is ‘when.’
Now to your question,
there are quite a number of issues we need to deal with and some of them will
include but are not limited to what I will personally want to see done through
legislative interventions. Some of my personal views are currently revolving
around such things like Education Reform, Sanctions for any State refusing
Local Government Autonomy, Compulsory Provision of basic amenities (portable
water, electricity, healthcare, social housing et al), State Police,
Restructuring of NYSC, Decentralization of Federal Powers, removal of the
dichotomy between State and Federal roads – all roads are on State lands…. I
can go on.
Looking
at your constituency Ogun East... what are the key issues here? What sort of
programmes will you sponsor to deliver the so called Democracy dividends?
The first thing I will
pursue vigorously is how to liberate my people from the strangulating shackles
of economic and mental poverty. These two issues make other things thrive.
Poverty of the pocket and the mind drive crime and several other
anti-development issues in the society. Through a series of programmes, I will
pursue this project vigorously. In concert with the Federal and State
governments and Private investors, I will light up Ogun East within 4years. I
already have my blueprints. There MUST not be any child (5-17yr old) roaming
the streets of Ogun East or at home during school time. Teachers’ welfare is
also part of my priority – every TRCN registered teacher in Ogun East will be proud
to be in the profession within my first two years of being elected. Human
Capital Development is the fulcrum of development. It is therefore imperative
that a lot of premium would be placed on capacity building.
Please take note of my
promises and confront me with them as at when due.
There's
been a lot of controversy about constituency projects, the main argument is
that legislators have no business awarding contracts and that a lot of money is
stolen... what will be your justification for the continuation of this regime?
There is nothing wrong
with the concept of Constituency projects. The project earmarked for a
constituency is intended for the development of that constituency. Democracy is
about who gets what, where and when. Constituency project is also supposed to
help speed up the pace of development. What we therefore need to look at is how
to make people become more accountable for whatever they have done in contrast
with what the law states.
Looking
at elections proper, what ways do you think Nigerians can have free, fair and
credible elections?
Free and fair election
is a product of strengthened institutions. Democratic institutions include a
free and responsible media, unfettered judiciary, an electoral umpire that is
independent, a vibrant and effective communication architecture, etc. Once all
democratic institutions are strengthened, elections will be free and fair. I
must however say that we have improved in the area of electoral management. You
don’t want to know what happened in the NPN/UPN days when ballot boxes where
openly snatched. There has been immense improvement in our electoral management
systems. I trust that in the years ahead, more improvement will be forced on us
by our realities.
I must mention the role
of money. While acknowledging that campaigns are expensive, vote buying is a
problem... stomach infrastructure as it is called... why is this a major
strategy for winning by the political class? Is it a function of poverty or
ignorance among the electorate?
In response to one of
your previous questions, I clearly stated that two major issues that I will
pursue with unrestrained vigour are: economic and mental poverty. Those two
factors fuel money politics in our country. When a man has not eaten, his
thinking is skewed, it becomes so warped that he or she is unable to have
clear-cut thinking. Until you cure him of that hunger, nothing else is
meaningful to him.
There
are a lot of anxieties in the build up to 2023 as usual, how do we douse
tension especially within party ranks as people jostle for positions?
Tension is an in-built
feature in any form of contestation. As the day of the political contest draws
near, gladiators and spectators become apprehensive and worried about their
position not because of anything other than the fact that in any competition,
humans get worried. Even on the day of marriage, the man and the woman are
apprehensive – will she come or has she changed her mind? The woman too will be
asking herself silently whether she has taken the right decision and whether
the man will not change his mind over night and put her in a state of shame. In
the case of Nigeria, our tension is further accentuated by the fact that we run
an expensive electioneering campaign. Democracy all over the world – whether in
the US, Great Britain, Germany, Russia, etc is not cheap. Therefore, when the
reality of losing so much money as a result of the loss of the election hits
you, there is bound to be tension. But we can douse this from different
perspectives. First, is that our language of campaign must be devoid of
belligerence. We must also find a very creative and innovative way of cutting
down the cost of electioneering campaigns. It is also very important for us to
look at the process of how party flagbearers emerge. The idea of direct
primaries looks like a strategy that will help remold some of these tendencies.
Do
you support direct primaries?
It has its own benefits
that we can examine again and again. Allowing party flagbearers to emerge
through direct primaries underscores the concept of ‘power belongs to the
people.’ I think it is an idea that has some utility embedded in it.
INEC has introduced
lots of reforms to the voters registration and polling procedures... relying
more on technology, do you see this as sustainable given that lots of voters
are not tech savvy or even literate?
I have no issue
whatsoever with the innovations that INEC has introduced into our electoral
system. They are welcome developments. I fully endorse them. It is also
important to state the need for INEC to continue to research into ways and
means of further improving on the current height the body has attained. Give a
few years more, some negative things commonly associated with election and the
entire electoral process will be impossible in this country. So, we must give
credit to INEC for their efforts to give us an electoral process that is error
free, an electoral system that is so sound and reliable that contestants will
find it unnecessary to approach the judiciary for any form of adjudication
because the process will not only be transparent, the outcome will simply be
acceptable by all and sundry.
What
sort of legacies would you want to leave behind as a politician given that a
lot of Nigerian politicians are forgotten as soon as they leave office?
I want to do those
things that will last from one generation to the other. In the next 50 years,
Chief Obafemi Awolowo will still be remembered in this country because of the
positive ways he affected the life of his generation and future generations.
The legacy I want to leave is the legacy of selfless service like that of the
likes of Aminu Kano who was an apostle of talakawa politics, the politics and
service that take people out of the dark alley of mental and economic poverty.
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